Thirty Three Things (x2)
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Thirty Three Things — By Joe Carter on June 9, 2008 at 12:05 am [Note: The following are the #1 and #2 items from Thirty Three Things posts #33-65.]
#33 — 1. YouTube University:
YouTube has struck deals with major universities, creating dedicated
channels from which schools can distribute their media content. Check
out the channels for UC Berkeley and University of Southern California.
2. How to blog a conference
#34 — 1. Even Good Vampires are Bad
2. Privacy and an argument against premarital sex
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#36 — 1. Like… could you just say it?
Slam poet Taylor Mali on our “aggressively inarticulate generation.” (HT: PyroManiacs)
2. Seven topics to avoid if you don’t want to risk being a bore
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#37 — 1. Carl Trueman on Going Bald for the Glory of God:
Yet baldness is nonetheless a great gift from the Lord, in
that it imposes a certain dignity on the ageing process by cutting off
the various less dignified options (e.g., ponytails, which shouldn’t be
sported by anyone over 30; and mullets which, frankly, should not be
sported by anyone, anywhere, anytime. Period.). Of course, there are
those, even Christians, who fight against this divinely-imposed
dignity. Dreadful toupees abound in the church, along with frightful
transplants, and the ubiquitous ‘comb-over’ or ‘sweep.’ The latter
seems predicated on the false notion that, if you have six hairs to
stretch across the barren landscape of your otherwise shiny pate,
nobody will notice that you have gone completely bald. Or perhaps there
is a belief somewhere that, in the country of the bald, the one-haired
man is king. Come on, gents, parade your baldness with pride and accept
the dignity which your divinely-imposed hair loss brings with it.
Don’t let this humorous excerpt fool you into thinking this is a fluff piece. As Justin Taylor notes, the article “contains serious, insightful points about youth, culture, and the priorities of the ministry.”
2.Newt Gingrich, Enviromentalist:
“In the Hegelian model, it’s not enough to be the antithesis party.”
(The ability to use a line like that–unironically and with a
straight-face–is one of the things I love about Newt. He’s the only
intellectual-politician we have left in the GOP.)
#38 — 1. In his recent testimony at a Congressional hearing,
U.S. Navy Senior Chief Petty Officer Malcolm Nance–a former instructor
for the Navy’s Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE)
school–says “waterboarding is not simulated drowning — it is
drowning”:
The SERE community was designed over 50 years ago to show
that, as a torture instrument, waterboarding is a terrifying, painful
and humiliating tool that leaves no physical scars and which can be
repeatedly used as an intimidation tool.Waterboarding has the ability to make the subject answer any
question with the truth, a half-truth or outright lie in order to stop
the procedure. Subjects usually resort to all three, often in rapid
sequence. Most media representations or recreations of the
waterboarding are inaccurate, amateurish and dangerous improvisations,
which do not capture the true intensity of the act. Contrary to popular
opinion, it is not a simulation of drowning — it is drowning.
2. If killing an enemy combatant is worse than torturing them, why
shouldn’t torture be allowed? Philosopher John Mark Reynolds briefly
notes four reasons why the argument fails. One of the most compelling for Christians should be the “Argument from Soul Liberty”:
First, killing a combatant actually honors his free will.
He has chosen to take up arms and the minister of justice is honoring
that choice by meeting him as he has chosen to be met.Torture removes the internal free will of the combatant by forcing
him to a mental submission that should not be in the power of
humankind. We should allow his mental defiance, even if we cannot allow
his physical defiance. In this way, we honor his reason (one aspect of
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#39 — 1. Chuck Norris Approved
2. Theologian Wayne Grudem’s Advice on Interpreting the Word
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#40 — 1. The Trouble with Limited Government
2. First recorded experiment? Daniel 1: 1-16 (HT: Neatorama)
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#41 — 1. New Testament Worldview by Vern Poythress [PDF] (HT: Tribalogue)
2. Philosopher William Lane Craig on the Flying Spaghetti Monster:
The real lesson to be learned from the case of the Flying
Spaghetti Monster is that it shows how completely out of touch our
popular culture is with the great tradition of natural theology. One
might as well be speaking a foreign language. That people could think
that belief in God is anything like the groundless belief in a fantasy
monster shows how utterly ignorant they are of the works of Anselm,
Aquinas, Leibniz, Paley, Sorley, and a host of others, past and
present. No doubt part of the fault lies with equally ignorant
Christians who have no answer when called upon to give a reason for the
hope within and who therefore give the impression of arbitrary and
groundless belief. But it must also be attributed to poor education,
intellectual laziness, and a lack of curiosity. Given the revival of
natural theology in our day over the last half century, we have no
excuse for such lame caricatures of theistic belief as belief in the
Flying Spaghetti Monster.
(HT: Maverick Philosopher)
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#42 — 1. The Epidemic on the Playground
2. Must One Believe in God Before Miracles?
#43 — 1. Best List of End of Year Lists: Fimoculous’ Lists: 2007
2. The New York Times Magazine 7th Annual Year in Ideas
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#44 — 1. Clive Thompson on the Age of Microcelebrity
Microcelebrity is the phenomenon of being extremely well
known not to millions but to a small group — a thousand people, or
maybe only a few dozen. As DIY media reach ever deeper into our lives,
it’s happening to more and more of us. Got a Facebook account? A
whackload of pictures on Flickr? Odds are there are complete strangers
who know about you — and maybe even talk about you.
2. Jeffrey Bell on social conservatism:
Most social conservatives believe that the central
principle asserted in the Declaration of Independence is true: “We hold
these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that
they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that
among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.” While
almost all Americans respect these words at least as a sentiment or
metaphor, it is a fact that most–not all–social conservatives believe
them to be literally true, while most–not all–opponents of social
conservatism do not believe them to be literally true.
#45 — 1. Peter Augustine Lawler, one of the most underrated public
intellectuals in America, has an intriguing editorial about religion
and politicians titled, “The Candidate’s Religion”:
Religious appeals in American politics have generally been
most effective when combined with appeals to constitutional principles
that Americans share in common. Remember Abraham Lincoln and the Rev.
Martin Luther King Jr. They both displayed themselves as Christian
leaders, but in ways that harmonized their personal faith with the
providential, natural, judgmental God of our Declaration of
Independence. Neither King nor Lincoln believed that his religion was
just window-dressing for his political teaching: The moral impetus for
overcoming injustice depends upon a God who secures our rights better
than we can all on our own. It’s very doubtful that men and women
without any personal faith at all can really devote themselves to the
proposition that all men are created equal. That’s one reason, among
many, that we’ve never had a president who proclaimed himself an
atheist, or who never acknowledged our nation’s gratitude to God.
2. Michael Patton ponders the question “Are All Sins Really Equal in God’s Sight?”:
I don’t believe that all sin is equal in God’s sight. I
also believe that telling people that it is does great damage to the
character of God and the seriousness of certain sins….I think that it is safe to say that while not all people sin to the
same degree, we all share in an equally depraved nature. In other
words, no one is less of a sinner because of an innate righteousness
about which they can boast. All people have equal potential for
depravity because we are all sons of Adam and share in the same
depravity, even if we don’t, due to God’s grace, act out our sinfulness
to the same degree.
(HT: Stand to Reason Blog)
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#46 — 1. Robert P. George on “Law and Moral Purpose” (Via RedState):
[T]he general welfare–the common good–requires that
government be limited. Government’s responsibility is primary when the
questions involve defending the nation from attack and subversion,
protecting people from physical assaults and various other forms of
depredation, and maintain public order. In other ways, however, its
role is subsidiary: to support the work of families, religious
communities, and other civil institutions of civil society that
shoulder the primary burden of forming upright and decent citizens,
caring for those in need, encouraging people to meet their
responsibilities to one another while also discouraging them from
harming themselves or others.Governmental respect for individual freedom and the autonomy of
nongovernmental spheres of authority is, then, a requirement of
political morality. Government must not try to run people’s lives or
usurp the roles and responsibilities of families, religious beliefs,
and other character-and-culture-forming authoritative communities. The
usurpation of the just authority of families, religious communities,
and other institutions is unjust in principle, often seriously so, and
the record of big government in the twentieth century–even when it has
not degenerated into vicious totalitarianism–shows that it does little
good in the long run and frequently harms those it seeks to help.
2. Jeffrey R. Snyder on A Nation of Cowards”:
The advice not to resist a criminal assault and simply hand
over the goods is founded on the notion that one’s life is of
incalculable value, and that no amount of property is worth it. Put
aside, for a moment, the outrageousness of the suggestion that a
criminal who proffers lethal violence should be treated as if he has
instituted a new social contract: “I will not hurt or kill you if you
give me what I want.” …Crime is not only a complete disavowal of the social contract, but
also a commandeering of the victim’s person and liberty. If the
individual’s dignity lies in the fact that he is a moral agent engaging
in actions of his own will, in free exchange with others, then crime
always violates the victim’s dignity. It is, in fact, an act of
enslavement. Your wallet, your purse, or your car may not be worth your
life, but your dignity is; and if it is not worth fighting for, it can
hardly be said to exist.
(HT: The American Scene)
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#47 — 1. A Cumulative Case for the Resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth [PDF] — A draft of an article written by Lydia and Tim McGrew for the Blackwell Companion to Natural Theology, edited by William Lane Craig and J. P. Moreland. (HT: Fides Quaerens Intellectum)
2. Info visualizations of the social networks and cross references in the Bible (HT: Kottke.org)
#48 — 1. Richard Mouw on Spiritual Consumerism’s Upside:
I once heard an economist rail against the consumerist
patterns of our society, illustrating his point by speaking
disdainfully of people who think “that economic freedom means having
the right to choose between McDonald’s and Burger King.” I must confess
that on occasion I take a few minutes to think about whether to buy a
Quarter Pounder or a Whopper. But what irked me about the economist who
put down the kind of culinary choice that some of us consider
non-trivial is that he is a wine connoisseur. I recently heard him go
into great detail about the relative virtues of two kinds of Cabernet
Sauvignon.The question I wanted to pose to him is not unlike the one I would
ask folks who speak disparagingly about a family that switches from a
local Methodist parish to a new megachurch charismatic congregation
that they find more spiritually fulfilling. Why is that decision a
manifestation of consumerism while, say, the moves of Lutheran
theologians–I have in mind Father Richard John Neuhaus and Jaroslav
Pelikan–to enter into Roman Catholicism and Orthodoxy are not? At the
very least, we need to be careful that we are not betraying an elitist
bias with the way we toss around the “consumerism” label. The
consumption of sermons and worship styles by an ordinary Christian
family looking for an enriching spiritual life may not be all that
different from the scholars’ consumption of theologies and liturgies.
2. If Rube Goldberg designed a website it might look something like this. (Hint: Move your cursor over the cup.)
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#49 — 1. Ezra Klein on bookshelves:
Bookshelves are not for displaying books you’ve read –
those books go in your office, or near your bed, or on your Facebook
profile. Rather, the books on your shelves are there to convey the type of person you would like to be.
I am the type of person who would read long biographies of Lyndon
Johnson, despite not being the type of person who has read any long
biographies of Lyndon Johnson. I am the type of person who is very
interested in a history of the Reformation, but am not, as it happens,
the type of person with the time to read 900 pages on the subject. More
importantly, I am the type of person who amasses many books, on all
sorts of subjects. I’m pretty sure that’s what a bookshelf is there to
prove. The reading of those books is entirely incidental.
(HT: Postmodern Conservative)
2. The Punctuation of Political Power
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#50 — 1. Vern S. Poythress, who earned his Ph.D. in mathematics from Harvard, on A Biblical View Of Mathematics:
The neutrality postulate holds special attractiveness as
applied to mathematics, because of the apparent widespread agreement
about mathematical truths. “Everybody knows that 2 + 2 = 4.” If
religious beliefs really have an influence, why is there such
widespread agreement, cutting across religious lines? We intend to
answer this question on several levels: (1) by showing that the
agreement in mathematics is not so widespread, nor so uncorrelated with
religious beliefs, as the textbooks would have you believe (§§2-7); (2)
by showing that non-Christian philosophy of mathematics is involved in
deep-set cleavages and antinomies, in its understanding of even so
simple a truth as 2 + 2 = 4 (§§11-18); (3) by showing that only on a
thoroughgoing Biblical basis can one genuinely understand and affirm
the real agreement about mathematical truths (§25).So, first of all, what differences have arisen in mathematics in
connection with religious belief? Differences have arisen over
arithmetical truth, over standards for proof, over number-theoretic
truth, over geometric truth, over truths of analysis, over mathematical
existence-not to mention the long-standing epistemological disputes
over the source of mathematical truth.
(HT: City of God)
2. The latest New York magazine has a fascinating article by Po Bronson on how and why kids lie:
Out of the 36 topics, the average teen was lying to his
parents about twelve of them. The teens lied about what they spent
their allowances on, and whether they’d started dating, and what
clothes they put on away from the house. They lied about what movie
they went to, and whom they went with. They lied about alcohol and drug
use, and they lied about whether they were hanging out with friends
their parents disapproved of. They lied about how they spent their
afternoons while their parents were at work. They lied about whether
chaperones were in attendance at a party or whether they rode in cars
driven by drunken teens….For two decades, parents have rated “honesty” as the trait they most
wanted in their children. Other traits, such as confidence or good
judgment, don’t even come close. On paper, the kids are getting this
message. In surveys, 98 percent said that trust and honesty were
essential in a personal relationship. Depending on their ages, 96 to 98
percent said lying is morally wrong.So when do the 98 percent who think lying is wrong become the 98 percent who lie?
Bronson’s article contains a number of revealing tidbits, including:
1. Lying is related to intelligence. The smarter the kid, the better they are at lying.
2. On average, a 4-year-old will lie once every two hours, while a 6-year-old will lie about once every hour and a half.
3. Scholars have found that kids who live in threat of consistent
punishment don’t lie less. Instead, they become better liars, at an
earlier age–learning to get caught less often.
4. Children lie because they see their parents lie, and learn to
imitate them. Adults inadvertently teach children that honesty only
creates conflict, and dishonesty is an easy way to avoid conflict.
5. Permissive parents don’t actually learn more about their children’s lives.
6. Most rules-heavy parents don’t actually enforce them since its too much work.
7. Parents view arguing with their teenager as destructive to their relationship, while teens see it as strengthening their bond.
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#51 — 1. The Case of the Typing Monkeys
The “Monkey Theorem,” in its popular form, holds that if
you have an infinite number of monkeys banging away at an infinite
number of keyboards, eventually you will get from one of them
Shakespeare’s Sonnet Eighteen, the first four lines of which read:“Shall I compare thee to a summer’s day? /Thou art more
lovely and more temperate./ Rough winds do shake the darling buds of
May/ And summer’s lease hath all too short a date.Well, in the 1990′s the British National Council of the Arts, in an
inventive use of taxpayers’ money, placed six monkeys in a cage with a
computer. After banging away at the keyboard for a whole month – and
using the computer as a bathroom at the same time – the monkeys had
typed 50 pages but failed to produce a single word in the English
language, not even the letter “a” by itself. [Gerry] Schroeder applied
probability theory to the “Monkey Theorem” and calculated that the
chance of getting Sonnet Eighteen by chance was 26 multiplied by itself
488 times (488 is the number of letters in the sonnet) or, in base 10,
10 to the 690th. If that number is written out, it is 1 with 690 zeroes
following it. But, as Schroeder showed, the number of particles in the
entire universe – protons, electrons and neutrons – is only ten to the
80th. Thus, even if every particle in the universe were a computer chip
that had been spinning out random letters a million times a second
since the beginning of time, there would still be no Shakespeare’s
Sonnet Eighteen by chance. As [philosopher Anthony Flew] concluded, “if
the theorem [the Monkey Theorem] won’t work for a single sonnet, then
of course it’s simply absurd to suggest that the more elaborate feat of
the origin of life could have been achieved by chance.
(HT: Cranach)
2. Carol Platt Liebau, who recently wrote a book about sex in America, on the term “prude”:
[A]s I point out in the book, the word “prude” derives from the old French “prude femme,”
meaning “a good or virtuous woman.” It’s revealing that, these days,
the term “slut” has become a widely accepted, affection term of
familiarity among girlfriends, but being labeled a “prude” is nothing
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#52 – 1. The Greatest Question Ever Asked by the Devil
The great question of the Book of Job is not “Why do the
righteous suffer?” but “Why do people serve God?” Would you serve God
if there were no blessings attached? What if God were to show you no
mercy? What if there were no heaven? What if there were no hell? Would
you still serve God? Why or why not? The Devil asked a legitimate
question.
2. David Mills on how some people like the idea of the “natural family” until it means changing or re-thinking their own lifestyle:
When a pastor says something in a sermon that you do not
like, goes the old joke, he has “gone from preaching to meddling.” He
has stopped telling pleasant and comforting stories (or enjoyably
convicting stories about the sins you don’t commit) and started
interfering with your life….You go from preaching to meddling when, for example, you assert that
the Natural Family has a “quiverful” of children; that it requires a
permanent, unbreakable bond between the husband and wife; or that it is
marked by what are called “sex roles.” This is too much nature, it is
nature untempered by technology and culture, as if you were asking
people to go naked in the winter or hunt and kill their own food and
eat it raw.
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#53 – 1. Doug Groothuis on recovering from fetus fatigue
It appears that millions of evangelicals, especially
younger ones, are experiencing fetus fatigue. They are tired of the
abortion issue taking center stage; it is time to move on to newer,
hipper things–the sort of issues that excite Bono: aid to Africa, the
environment, and cool tattoos. Abortion has been legal since they were
born; it is the old guard that gets exercised about millions of
abortions over the years. So, let’s not worry that Barak Obama and
Hillary are pro-choice. That is a secondary issue. After all, neither
could do that much damage regarding this issue.Evangelicals (if that word has any meaning), for God’s sake, please
wake up and remember the acres of tiny corpses you cannot see. Yes, the
Christian social vision is holistic. We should endeavor to restore
shalom to this beleaguered planet. That includes helping Africa,
preserving the environment, and much more. However, the leading
domestic moral issue remains the value of helpless human life. Since
Roe v. Wade, approximately 50 million unborn humans have been killed
through abortion. Stalin said, “One death is a tragedy. A million dead
is a statistic.” Too many are now Stalinists on abortion. The numbers
mean nothing, apparently. The vast majority of these abortions were not
done to save the life of the mother, a provision I take to be
justified. Things have reached the point where bumper stickers say,
“Don’t like abortion, don’t have one.” It is simply a matter of
private, subjective taste. But how about this: “Don’t like slavery,
don’t own slaves”? Two human beings are involved in this matter,
inescapably. . . .Evangelicals, for God’s sake, please wake up. Remember the least,
the last, and the lost: the millions of unborn human beings who hang in
the balance (Matthew 25:31-46).
No, this is not the only issue, but it is a titanic issue that cannot
be ignored. Rouse yourself to recover from fetus fatigue. God is
watching.
2. Steven Garber on making peace with proximate justice:
Proximate justice realizes that something is better than
nothing. It allows us to make peace with some justice, some mercy, all
the while realizing that it will only be in the new heaven and new
earth that we find all our longings finally fulfilled, that we will see
all of God’s demands finally met. It is only then–there we will see
all of the conditions for human flourishing finally in place, socially,
economically, and politically.
(HT: Common Grounds Online)
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#54 — 1. David Cameron, head of Britain’s Conservative Party, recently gave a great speech on the need for family-friendly policies:
Today I want to talk to you about a simple ambition that I
have for our country. It’s at the heart of what I believe, and what I
believe our country needs. My ambition is to make Britain more
family-friendly. To make our country a better place to bring up
children. Not just because it’s the right thing to do, not just because
my family is the most important thing in my life, but because families
should be the most important thing in our country’s life.Why? We all know why. Because those kids at the end of the street,
causing mayhem, smashing up the bus shelter…we know what the problem
is. It goes back to the home, the way they were brought up, the lack of
a strong family to teach them that you just don’t behave like that.
It’s families. Those young people who leave school without
qualifications, expecting nothing but a life on welfare. We know what
the problem is. The problem is they never had that strong family
saying: go on, try hard at school, do your homework, make something of
your life. Those people in jail, time after time, addicted to drugs and
unable to break free of their habit and a life of crime. We know what
the problem is. It’s families and be clear: there are single parents,
divorced parents, widows – all working hard to keep their families
together, to keep their children on track. The modern Conservative
Party is the party of families, and we need to support them all.
(HT: ConservativeHome’s ToryDiary)
2. John Mark Reynolds on longing for love:
Somehow the traditional Christian sexual ethic of Dante and
Donne has become confused with repression or being undersexed. Nothing
could be further from the truth. If my email box is any indication,
libertine sexual rules have not made us happier or better lovers. It
has made things worse. It certainly did for me.Chastity is a positive thing, not the lack of something. It is, I
think, the active nourishment of love to prepare it for the appropriate
beloved. It is a great gift….In old movies, making love was about intimacy and might culminate in
marriage. Marriage was more, so much more, than the sex act, though it
was not less than that. In modern terms, making love is merely a nice
way to say the f-word.
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#55 — 1. “Wikihistory” is an intriguing, very brief science fiction short story by Desmond Warzel. As BoingBoing
notes, the form is “a series of messages posted to a time-travelers’
forum — it’s basically a Wikipedia edit war, where the old hands have
to keep on slapping down the noobs for killing Hitler”
International Association of Time Travelers: Members’ Forum Subforum: Europe – Twentieth Century – Second World War Page 263
11/15/2104
At 14:52:28, FreedomFighter69 wrote:
Reporting my first temporal excursion since joining IATT: have just
returned from 1936 Berlin, having taken the place of one of Leni
Riefenstahl’s cameramen and assassinated Adolf Hitler during the
opening of the Olympic Games. Let a free world rejoice!At 14:57:44, SilverFox316 wrote:
Back from 1936 Berlin; incapacitated FreedomFighter69 before he could
pull his little stunt. Freedomfighter69, as you are a new member,
please read IATT Bulletin 1147 regarding the killing of Hitler before
your next excursion. Failure to do so may result in your expulsion per
Bylaw 223.At 18:06:59, BigChill wrote:
Take it easy on the kid, SilverFox316; everybody kills Hitler on their
first trip. I did. It always gets fixed within a few minutes, what’s
the harm?
Read the rest here.
2. J. Budziszewski on what we lose when we forget what sex is for:
Suppose a young man is more interested in using his lungs
to get high by sniffing glue. What would you think of me if I said,
“That’s interesting–I guess the purpose of my lungs is to oxygenate my blood, but the purpose of his
lungs is to get high”? You’d think me a fool, and rightly so. The
purpose of the lungs is built into the design of the lungs. He doesn’t
change that purpose by sniffing glue; he only violates it.We can ascertain the purposes of the other features of our design in
the same way. The purpose of the eyes is to see, the purpose of the
heart is to pump blood, the purpose of the thumb is to oppose the
fingers so as to grasp, the purpose of the capacity for anger is to
protect endangered goods, and so on. If we can ascertain the purpose of
all those other powers, there is no reason to think that we cannot
ascertain the purpose or purposes of the sexual powers too.
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#56 — 1. Jerry Bower on how the “last week of [Jesus'] life was driven by clashes pertaining to wealth and poverty – freedom and tyranny.”
Rome needed money to buy off the urban mob, and Herod
needed Rome to keep down the Palestinian rabble. And so when the
people, innocents at home, came to Jerusalem to make their offerings to
God, they were met at each step in the process of religious devotion
with another checkpoint at which tolls were extracted. The journey to
Jerusalem often meant crossing a Roman checkpoint – ka-ching! Since the
trip was long and hard on the animals, it was better to travel light
and buy the sacrifices in Jerusalem – ka-ching! You can’t use pagan
Roman coins for that sort of thing, of course, so off to the money
changers – ka-ching again. Tithes, offerings, sacrifices, festivals,
Rome got her cut – ka-ching, ka-ching, ka-ching, ka-ching, ka-ching. In
fact, that’s the only reason there even was a temple or a King Herod.
Rome would have long ago plundered it and killed him, except you don’t
kill the goose who lays the golden eggs.If the temple was the bridge between heaven and earth, Herod was the
troll who lived under the bridge. Every pilgrim was forced to pay the
toll. That’s what kept Herod in power, no ka-ching, no king. Ordinary
Jews hated the regime, and the anger was boiling over, but Herod didn’t
care what they thought; he had Rome on his side.Into this world steps the young son of a Galilean entrepreneur.
2. Ty Burr, of the Boston Globe, on the cultural force of media bad girls:
Bringing up children in 21st-century America is difficult
enough, given a pop culture that constantly promotes a vulgar, empty
celebration of self. But do some of our starlets have to work so hard
at it? The Spears sisters, Britney and Jamie Lynn, have mutated from
wholesome pop tarts to whacked-out baby factories. Lindsay Lohan acts
out her rebellion against the entire culture on the evening news. Paris
Hilton – well, Paris Hilton. That’s all you need to say.As a parent of two girls, age 11 and 13 at this writing, I should
probably be wringing my hands. I’m not, because when I listen to my
daughters and their friends, I hear a moral code being forged upon the
paparazzi traumas of the famous and unfortunate. There are levels of
judgment going on here, moral siftings and weighings. Children are both
more and less innocent than adults take them for, and they process the
role models our culture hands them in complex ways.The new bad girls, it’s clear, are important figures in the culture.
But they don’t necessarily teach young girls how to behave – just as
likely, they’re teaching them how not to behave. They have become
anti-role models.
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#57 — 1. Is it permissible for God to kill people?
Many people have difficulty with God’s acts in the Bible
because God seems to be committing or commanding immoral acts (e.g.,
when God commands the Israelites to wipe out certain people-groups,
including children). I think that many of these charges can be
alleviated if some good justification can be given for the claim that
it is morally permissible for God to kill people as he does in the
Bible.One step towards arguing for the claim that it is morally
permissible for God to kill people is to argue that people do not have
the right not to be killed by God. I may have the right that you not
kill me, and vice versa, but perhaps there are different considerations
with God. The difference is that while others don’t own my body, God
may own my body.
(HT: Fides Quaerens Intellectum)
2. Reihan Salam on Rickrolling and Racial Transcendence:
Rick Astley, known for his 1987 hit “Never Gonna Give You
Up,” has again become an object of amusement and fascination as
Internet pranksters deceptively deploy links to his most celebrated
song’s groundbreaking music video.Apparently there’s something very, very funny about Rick Astley, judging by the endurance of “rickrolling.”…
The profound illogic of this video defies description. Yet one
suspects there’s more to it. As an exemplar of “blue-eyed soul,” Astley
could be condemned for appropriating a primarily black form of musical
expression. But not only was he not condemned – he was embraced by
music-lovers of all colors, not least the acrobatic bartender featured
in the music video itself. The earnestness and lack of
self-consciousness contrasts with the paralyzing cynicism of our own
time. What we’re seeing is the promise of a post-racial future, in
which color distinctions melt away in the white heat (so to speak) of
Astley’s soulful vocals.Could it be that Rick Astley’s “Never Gonna Give You Up” is the soundtrack for the Age of Obama?
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#58 — 1. 110 best books: The perfect library
2. When Christians think about themselves, a different pattern of
activity is observed in their brains compared with when non-religious
people think about themselves. From the abstract of the paper Neural consequences of religious belief on self-referential processing:
Christianity strongly encourages its believers to surrender
to God and to judge the self from God’s perspective. We used functional
MRI to assess whether this religious belief is associated with neural
correlates of self-referential processing distinct from that of
non-religious people. Non-religious and Christian participants were
scanned while performing tasks of personal-trait judgments regarding
the self or public persons….our findings suggest that Christian
beliefs result in weakened neural coding of stimulus self-relatedness
but enhanced neural activity underlying evaluative processes applied to
self-referential stimuli.
(HT: BPS Research Digest)
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#59 — 1. n + 1 on Dating:
Dating presents itself as an education in human
relationships. In fact it’s an anti-education. You could invent no
worse preparation for love, for marriage, than the tireless pursuit of
the perfect partner. Keep Looking, says dating. You’re Not Done Yet.
What About That One? And That One? Dating, like the tyrant, seeks
perfection (within a certain price range). Whereas the heart, like the
eye, can only cling to imperfections: her funny stride, and the way her
voice breaks, child-like, on the phone. And so the dater,
self-baffling, seeks what the heart cannot understand.We must stop dating. But we can’t. Because the only way to stop dating
would be to date more, and more efficiently, to become more adept at
spotting, on the first date, those things that on the fifth or
fifteenth date are going to become a problem. Of course that only makes
it worse–by that standard, even Abelard and Heloise wouldn’t have made
it. The other option is to change yourself. But you’d have done that by
now, if you could.The only way to stop dating is to fall in love. But how, under conditions of dating, would this be possible?
(HT: The American Scene)
2. J.P. Moreland on the Argument from Consciousness:
If we limit our options to theism and naturalism, it is
hard to see how finite consciousness could result from the
rearrangement of brute matter; it is easier to see how a Conscious
Being could produce finite consciousness since, according to theism,
the First Being is Himself conscious. Thus, the theist has no need to
explain how consciousness can come from materials bereft of it.
Consciousness is there from the beginning.To put the point differently, in the beginning there were either
particles or Reason. If you start with particles and just rearrange
them according to physical law, you won’t get consciousness. If you
start with Reason, you already have consciousness.
(HT: Fides Quaerens Intellectum)
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#60 — 1. David Kuo on God and suffering:
I was in Uganda last month. While there I saw, if not hell,
some of its suburbs. The stories are familiar to us all — dying
children, slums beyond description, systemic brokenness that robs hope.
So many of those questions popped into my head — How could God allow
this sort of thing? What kind of god could allow children to live like
this.It isn’t a new question for me or for any of us. It is among the
world’s oldest questions I suspect. But as I thought about it something
clicked. God isn’t allowing this suffering. I am. You are. We are.I will focus on Africa’s suffering. Africa finds itself where it
does today because of a billion or more decisions that people made–
individual decisions. A decision not to invest here. A decision to buy
a slave there. A decision to drive an unfair trade deal here. A
decision to pay diamond miners pennies. Billions and billions of
decisions like this have been made over the centuries. The result?
Africa today.Is that God’s fault?
I think not. Because at every moment those decisions were made God
was whispering for people to do the right thing, the just thing, the
merciful thing. But we chose not to listen.God has done his job. We haven’t done ours.
2. Clay Shirky on sitcoms and cognitive surplus:
So how big is that [cognitive] surplus? So if you take
Wikipedia as a kind of unit, all of Wikipedia, the whole project–every
page, every edit, every talk page, every line of code, in every
language that Wikipedia exists in–that represents something like the
cumulation of 100 million hours of human thought. I worked this out
with Martin Wattenberg at IBM; it’s a back-of-the-envelope calculation,
but it’s the right order of magnitude, about 100 million hours of
thought.And television watching? Two hundred billion hours, in the U.S. alone,
every year. Put another way, now that we have a unit, that’s 2,000
Wikipedia projects a year spent watching television. Or put still
another way, in the U.S., we spend 100 million hours every weekend,
just watching the ads. This is a pretty big surplus. People asking,
“Where do they find the time?” when they’re looking at things like
Wikipedia don’t understand how tiny that entire project is, as a
carve-out of this asset that’s finally being dragged into what Tim
calls an architecture of participation.
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#62 — 1. Jennifer Roback Morse on Feminism: An attack on the human body
…[F]eminists don’t view gender differentiation as a
biological reality to which sensible people must adapt. Sex differences
are a cosmic injustice. No demand for social change is too extreme in
the service of wiping out these differences. This is great if you
happen to be a radical, intent on justifying revolutionary social
changes. But if you are a normal person, living in a normal body, this
ideology is more than a nuisance. We have painted ourselves into a
corner. Under feminist tutelage, we have insisted that women change
their fertility in order to accommodate the labor market. We have
insisted on the right to raise our children alone, and to spend larger
and larger portions of our lives alone.
2. Harvard research reveals the prejudices of babies
One area into which Spelke’s team would like to delve
deeper is the origins of bigotry in human beings. In the case of skin
colour, newborns respond to individuals of all races equally. By three
months, however, a baby from a Caucasian household will prefer to gaze
at a white face, and a black baby at an African American face. By the
age of two or three, they are drawn to their own gender, too. ‘There
are some very intriguing parallels between the patterns of social
preference we find in infants and what seems to go on in adults,’
Spelke says.
(HT: kottke.org)
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#63 — 1. P.J. O’Rourke on “fairness, idealism and other atrocities”:
All politics stink. Even democracy stinks. Imagine if our
clothes were selected by the majority of shoppers, which would be
teenage girls. I’d be standing here with my bellybutton exposed.
Imagine deciding the dinner menu by family secret ballot. I’ve got
three kids and three dogs in my family. We’d be eating Froot Loops and
rotten meat.But let me make a distinction between politics and politicians. Some
people are under the misapprehension that all politicians stink.
Impeach George W. Bush, and everything will be fine. Nab Ted Kennedy on
a DUI, and the nation’s problems will be solved.But the problem isn’t politicians – it’s politics. Politics won’t
allow for the truth. And we can’t blame the politicians for that.
Imagine what even a little truth would sound like on utoday’s campaign
trail:“No, I can’t fix public education. The problem isn’t the teachers
unions or a lack of funding for salaries, vouchers or more computer
equipment The problem is your kids!”
2. Robin Hanson on faith in physicians
After an entire semester hearing how we get little health
value from a wide margin of medical spending, almost every student (21
undergrads & 9 grads) said that a big argument against legal faith
healing is that it can discourage people from going to regular doctors.
Most also said it is hard to evaluate faith healer quality, and to know
if they are just in it for the money.Sigh. Regular docs are mostly in it for the money, and are also hard
to evaluate. If we on average get near zero health from our last units
of medicine, we are better off replacing those units with anything
cheaper, at least if it also gives near zero net health effect and
similar non-health benefits. Faith healing seems to fit this bill.Sure, we vary in how much medicine we get, and in how much we would
substitute legal faith healing for medicine. So yes a general trend
toward more faith healing would no doubt produce a few people who
sometimes get too little medicine. But that harm should be far
outweighed by a reduction in harmful overtreatment. Alas, apparently
even econ students after a semester of my indoctrination can’t see this
(only two mentioned it) – we all just love docs too much.
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#64 — 1. Geerhardus Vos on the biblical concepts of “wisdom” and “folly”:
The [Old Testament] idea of “folly” can be best understood
from the antithesis it forms to “wisdom.” Wisdom is not a theoretical
or abstractly scientific apprehension of things, but such a practical
immediate insight into their reality and manner of action as enables
one to use them to advantage. Correspondingly, a fool is not one who is
deficient in the power of logical thought, but one who lacks the
natural discernment and tact required for success in life. Both wisdom
and folly are teleological conceptions, and rest on the principle of
adjustment to a higher law for some practical purpose.
(HT: Tribalogue)
2. Philosophy professor Edward Tingley on how agnostics and atheist are not true skeptics:
All of the people who say that they are “atheists through
skepticism, because they see no evidence that God exists,” are patently
unthinking people, since by virtue of turning skeptic, no one has ever
done anything–employed any logic, gathered any evidence, found any way
forward–to reach a conclusion about whether God exists. So these
atheists have not reached a conclusion; they have made a commitment.What the scientific skeptic ought to say is this: “Having examined
the hard evidence, we declare that route to be exhausted. The only kind
of evidence for God’s existence that counts will have to be of some
other kind–if there is any other kind.”That would be reasonable. And it would be a fine thing for a skeptic
to doubt that there is any evidence besides the standard, demonstrable
kind–and there are skeptics who do so. But all those who, just because
they doubt it, run home with the question answered are frauds like
their agnostic brethren if they still call themselves scientists.
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#65 — 1. The Illuminati
is a selection of photos by photographer Evan Baden that show young
people seemingly mesmerized by the glow of their electronic devices.
Baden explains his project:
In Westernized cultures today, there is a generation that
is growing up without the knowledge of what it is to be disconnected.
The world in which we are growing up is always on. We are continuously
plugged in, and linked up. We take this technology for granted. Not
because we are ungrateful, but because we simply don’t know a world
without it.From our earliest memories, there has always been a way to connect
with others, whether it is Myspace, Facebook, cell phones, e-mail, or
instant messenger. And now, with the Internet, instant messaging, and
e-mail in our pocket, right there with our phones, we can always feel
as if we are part of a greater whole. These devices grace us with the
ability to instantly connect to others, and at the same time, they
isolate us from those with whom we are connected. They allow for great
freedom, yet so often, we are chained to them. They have become part of
who we are and how we identify ourselves. These devices ordain us with
a wealth of knowledge and communication that would have been
unbelievable a generation ago. More and more, we are bathed in a
silent, soft, and heavenly blue glow. It is as if we carry divinity in
our pockets and purses.
(HT: Ypulse)
2. How the Ideas and Events of 1993 Created the World We Live in Today
Oh, what a year! 1993 contains the seeds of a new world -
the military nails down GPS, awareness of climate change dawns, a bunch
of kids in Illinois code the first useful browser for the web, Sears
discontinues its paper catalog, the X-Files debuts and Wired magazine is born.
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Kids telling lies
Bronson’s article contains a number of revealing tidbits, including:
There’s only one logical conclusion to the facts presented. Parents want kids to lie.
For two decades, parents have rated “honesty” as the trait they most wanted in their children.
Hmmmm, just what you’d expect a person to say if they want to produce a kid that tells lies? :)
I wonder if what is happening here is that parents want their kids to manage their own affairs…to a degree of course. So they accept and do a degree expect lies to create a sense of security. The sense of security they are looking for is that their kids can manage for themselves in everyday situations. Instead of just being direct about it, “yea mom half the kids got drunk at the party but I held myself to three beers ’cause I figured I should pace myself and not drink more than I can handle” they are indirect “no mom there was just chips and soda at the party.” The lie is actually communicating a truth which is “yes I’m surrounded by people doing crazy things but I’m holding my own pretty well”.
Before you say this is a deplorable state of affairs you should ask yourself if you really wanted to live in a world of nothing but direct truths? Try to answer this question right before your next employee review.
Natural family
You go from preaching to meddling when, for example, you assert that the Natural Family has a “quiverful” of children; that it requires a permanent, unbreakable bond between the husband and wife; or that it is marked by what are called “sex roles.” This is too much nature, it is nature untempered by technology and culture, as if you were asking people to go naked in the winter or hunt and kill their own food and eat it raw.
But it’s a myth to think there is a human nature that does not incorporate technology and culture.
Legal faith healing
After an entire semester hearing how we get little health value from a wide margin of medical spending, almost every student (21 undergrads & 9 grads) said that a big argument against legal faith healing is that it can discourage people from going to regular doctors. Most also said it is hard to evaluate faith healer quality, and to know if they are just in it for the money.
I thought faith healing was legal? It would be pretty hard to outlaw it given that free speech and free religion is well protected. I have no problem with it being legal as long as the playing field is level. The faith healer should be able to back up any medical claims he makes or promises as much as any doctor would.
I suppose I’d be more impressed with The Illuminati project had the subjects been illuminated by the light from the devices they’re holding, rather than what appears to be an outside light source.
Besides being incredibly naive, the anti-torture argument you quote is perverse. The idea that it is right or Christian to honor the free will of someone even when it means using that free will to commit murder is a patent absurdity and merely demonstrates why the “free will theodicy” that so many Christians employ in defense of their theology is absurd. Honoring so-called free will is more valuable than honoring justice, than honoring life itself? How grotesque!
David, that is not what the argument is saying. It is saying you do not violate one’s free will…in other words you don’t break someone’s will through torture. You can stop their free action. That means you can imprison them to stop them from killing, or even kill them if, say, you meet them on the battlefield and there is no other option.
Check out a new blog at anonymousantitheist.blogspot.com and let’s get the debate going!!!
If waterboarding is torture in all cases AND the SERE community (or the military more generally) has regularly applied waterboarding in SERE (and other military) training for the past forty years or so, then it would seem that the US has been “torturing” its own personnel for the past 40 years.
But of course, the US has not been engaged in torture all these years even when using waterboarding in training. So, it would seem that some forms of waterboarding in some circumstances and in some contexts is not “torture.”
I could be wrong, of course, but Im not sure where my reasoning is flawed. Would anyone want to defend the assertion that the US military has, in fact, been legally “torturing” its own people in SERE and other training for the past 40 years or so.
Voluntary or not would be a factor in deciding whether or not the military tortures its own people as training.
Perhaps this illustration might also help….
The armed forces has boxing as a recreational sport that some of its members participate in. Does that mean captured prisoners can be made to fight each other in gladitorial rings for the amusement of the troops? Is that the same thing or not?
Boontin offers the standard objection here. The claim is that an action that would otherwise be torture (e.g, waterboarding) gets rendered non-torture through “consent.” I’m not sure I understand why that would render an technique “non-torture.”
But suppose it does. Notice what the concession implies. It implies that there is at least one surrounding circumstance in which a torture technique is rendered non-torture. But if there is one such circumstance, then why can’t there be more? What other circumstances and conditions might render this technique non-torture. Maybe this is the ONLY condition that would render the technique non-torture. Maybe the claim to be defended is: “waterboarding is always torture unless it is consented to by the party to which it is applied.”
What gives me pause here is that the US government would not apply other techniques of torture on their own soldiers in training *even if they did consent.* I’m sure you could find some guy somewhere who would “consent” to a particularly gruesome form of torture–car battery cables to the private parts, severing a part of the body etc. But the government would not condone such an action even with consent. And they would punish severely some young Lt. who used that as his defense after having strapped battery cables to some macho Private’s privates. So, my question is this: what is it about waterboarding that makes it non-torture in some instances while other forms of “torture” always remain so.
It seems to me that waterboarding is a “close call”, precisely for these reasons. It seems much more open to context and circumstances than other “techniques.”
I don’t think the boxing analogy is apt.
Maybe this is the ONLY condition that would render the technique non-torture.
It might very well be so. The military might not tolerate strapping someone with battery cables or cutting off body parts as part of ‘training’ but what would you make of someone who cut off his own foot or paid a prostitute to use electric shocks on himself? You may say he is sick or demented but it would be very strange to call him a torture victim….even though you’d have no trouble saying a WWII vet who experienced that after being captured by the Japanese or Germans was a torture victim.
Consent seems to play a huge role in this. Of course another question is how much is the waterboarding done in training like the torture waterboarding? I would imagine the training is highly controlled plus the victim knows the intent is training so one has to wonder if it really is the same thing as what happens in the field.
Keith
Been thinking about this for a bit:
But of course, the US has not been engaged in torture all these years even when using waterboarding in training. So, it would seem that some forms of waterboarding in some circumstances and in some contexts is not “torture.”
Here’s the question. Is the ‘waterboarding’ done by SERE exactly match what is done to detainees or what was done to US POWs by the Japanese? If so then indeed SERE is guilty of torturing its own people. If it is not then whether or not SERE is guilty would depend on how what they do differs.
I would imagine SERE’s training doesn’t really involve waterboarding but only elements of in order to make their actual waterboarding less effective on their trainees (or at least help them tolerate it).
It certainly does seem possible that a training program might cross the line and actually end up torturing those in it. Whether any such program does in the US military would require an in depth examination of it.
I think I would be open to referring to someone who harms himself in the way you describe as a self-torturer, perhaps in the same way suicide used to be called “self-murder.”
Surely consent plays some a role in determining if this or that act or technique can be labeled “torture.” But I note that you (Boonin)have added an additional consideration–INTENT. The suggestion seems to be that an act or technique can be labeled “torture” or “not- torture” depending on the “intent” of those who employ it. And, you also suggest a third possibility that might render an act of torture not torture, namely whether it is “highly controlled,” by those who apply the technique.
Now, if my admittedly weak skills in artithmetic haven’t failed me, that makes three conditions under which an act of torture might be labeled non-torture: consent, intent, and “being done in a ‘highly controlled’ manner.
So, maybe “two out of three ain’t bad”–with apologies to Meatloaf. If what distinguishes an act from being “torture” from that which is “not-torture” is really dependent upon such surrounding circumstances, then maybe things like “intent” and being done “in a highly controlled manner” APART FROM CONSENT is enough to render an act (like waterboarding) “not-torture.”
So, if I have captured a high level member of Al Qaeda in, say, 2002 and I am confident that he will sing like a canary by waterboarding him, and by singing like a canary he provides valuable information to prevent a mass casualty attack on civilians and my proximate INTENT is to use the technique under “highly controlled conditions” (say, with a medical doctor present)with my ultimate INTENT to protect innocent lives, the MAYBE, it would not be “torture” under those circumstances.
Keith
I think I would be open to referring to someone who harms himself in the way you describe as a self-torturer, perhaps in the same way suicide used to be called “self-murder.”
Perhaps, then, we should not seek to avoid defining torture in such a way that ‘torture training’ cannot be read as torture. Perhaps we should say the SERE trainees willingly subject themselves to torture in order to train how to deal with it should they ever become captured and subjected to it. We could then shift the debate as to whether or not it is ethical for gov’t to perform such torture on willing volunteers for that purpose. I would say it probably is but even then there are limits. The training might be more effective if 5% of the class was tortured to the brink of death so the remaining 95% would have an ultra-realistic experience of torture including the real fear of death. Whether that would be ethical, even with willing volunteers, is a different question.
I agree with you that we start getting into problems with using intent in judging whether or not something is torture. What I meant, though, when I wrote ‘highly controlled manner’ was that I suspect the ‘waterboard torture training’ is not true waterboarding but only elements of it. Two days ago I was in the pool with a friend and we started joking around and pushed each other under water. For a few moments I noted how terrifying it is to suddenly be dunked under water right before you had a chance to catch your breath. While I’m sure that fear is an element of waterboard torture, it wouldn’t be accurate to say the 30 seconds of hoarseplay was any type of real torture.
In your Al Qaeda example, I would say you illustrate why it is so tricky to use intent. I would say in your hypothetical you employed torture. That may be ethically excusable given exceptional circumstances or it may not but it would be wrong to pretend it wasn’t torture.
Thinking back to your older question:
I’m sure you could find some guy somewhere who would “consent” to a particularly gruesome form of torture–car battery cables to the private parts, severing a part of the body etc. But the government would not condone such an action even with consent
You seem to be saying car battery cables and severing body parts are torture and I think it just might be possible even Bush’s Yoo might agree with you. But look again at how adding ‘intent’ to the definition of torture leads to trouble:
So, if I have captured a high level member of Al Qaeda in, say, 2002 and I am confident that he will sing like a canary by waterboarding him, and by singing like a canary he provides valuable information to prevent a mass casualty attack on civilians and my proximate INTENT is to use the technique under “highly controlled conditions” (say, with a medical doctor present)with my ultimate INTENT to protect innocent lives, the MAYBE, it would not be “torture” under those circumstances.
But what if you can’t get him to sing by waterboarding? What if you go to the battery cables and severing body parts? Does it ever become torture? What about the lives of innocents? Yoo, you recall, asserted that if all of the above doesn’t make the high level member sing the Executive could have his child’s testicles crushed in front of him…and if the standard is anything is permitted if creative writers could come up with any plausible possible hypothetical situation where it maybe will ‘save lives’ then there really is no limit at all.
You ask, “what if you can’t get him to sing through waterboarding.” The short answer is that you ought to do what you can to get the information short of torture, which is prohibited by statute.
But then we have to have some DEFINITION of what counts as torture.I have no doubt that the definition tendered by Yoo in August, 2002 defined “torture” too broadly, which was why it was subsequently rejected by the OLC (Goldsmith’s book, THE TERROR PRESIDENCY is the authoritative account here). But that still leaves us with the challenge. Is the definition broad enough to allow “waterboarding” if done with the right “intent” and under “highly controlled circumstances” or not.
I’m simply suggesting that this is a close call in a way that chopping of body parts, or hooking up electrical currents is not. It MAY indeed be the case that in the FOUR instances in which the CIA used waterboarding on the highest level AQ terrorists, that they crossed the line into “torture.” But then again, they may not have crossed the line into torture. And I suspect the arguments among the lawyers at the CIA and at the office of legal counsel roughly followed the line of argument I have been suggesting.
Just a quick note on SERE and other military training using waterboarding–by all accounts it is the SAME technique. the difference as you suggest is the (at least) tacit consent of the subject (although I recall the famous quip of Robert Nozick that tacit consent is not worth the paper it is not written on). The other differences may have to do with duration (suggesting that the duration is relevant to whether the technique crosses the line into torture). I suspect that in both training and in its application to the four AQ terrorists, there were all sorts of supervision and “safeguards.”
Is the definition broad enough to allow “waterboarding” if done with the right “intent” and under “highly controlled circumstances” or not.
I would say your previous posts have shown why ‘intent’ should not be part of the definition of torture. Torture done with good intent is still torture. The good intent may mitigate the evil of torture but waterboarding doesn’t magically become less torturous if the person doing it thinks he is helping save lives.
Just a quick note on SERE and other military training using waterboarding–by all accounts it is the SAME technique. the difference as you suggest is the (at least) tacit consent of the subject (although I recall the famous quip of Robert Nozick that tacit consent is not worth the paper it is not written on). The other differences may have to do with duration (suggesting that the duration is relevant to whether the technique crosses the line into torture). I suspect that in both training and in its application to the four AQ terrorists, there were all sorts of supervision and “safeguards.”
I would not dismiss the tacit consent so lightly. Members of the military are volunteers and citizens in good standing. If a training program crossed the line they have a host of administrative and legal tools they can use to challenge it…as well as informal tools such as appealing to organizations, members of congress and so on. Those who design such programs have this as a check on their behavior even if the nature of the members service makes it impossible for him to ‘unvolunter’ for a particular type of training. Those being held as suspected terrorists do not have such tools which means it would be somewhat foolish to put such faith in assuming nameless government agents will exercise excellent “supervision and safeguards”. As you point out this administration already has an established record of overreaching here.
Continuing on consent, one aspect of torture that cannot be simulated in a training program if the fact that torture is being done by someone trying to harm you. Here I’m not talking about their intent but by the victims knowledge that his torturer does not have his best interests at heart. Even if ‘training waterboarding’ is of the same duration the soldier knows he isn’t really being tortured by an enemy. He may pass out but his life isn’t really in danger. That can be changed. Like I said we could imagine a torture program where a small portion of the class actually is killed or harmed. Such a class might make up for its losses by producing an elite group who is exceptionally equiped to handle being tortured. I think there’s a lot of ethical questions about such a class but I’m not sure you could rule it out entirely. Is it different than allowing people to volunteer for high risk missions that might have a casualty rate over 50%?
In conclusion I’d say that the simple fact that SERE may have training programs that subject students to waterboarding does not make waterboarding non-torture. In some respects, the stadard for those captured are higher than the standards for one’s own troops. One cannot, for example, force those captured to fight on the front lines for your side. (Of course I acknowledge captured combatants are properly denied freedom & do not enjoy the ‘fringe benefits’ that POWs are supposed to get like access to tobacco, sports etc.).