Around the Horn: Sarah Palin for Vice-President

Politics, Republicans — By on August 29, 2008 at 11:02 am

John McCain has announced his choice for Vice-President. Sarah Palin is McCain’s choice for the next president of the United States should something happen to him while in office.
Media outlets are buzzing with stories about McCain’s interesting and unexpected nominee choice – here is a quick trip around the horn on McCain-Palin 08:
The Trumpet Resounds
Tim Grieve and Jonathan Martin give voters unfamiliar with Sarah Palin a quick history of the Republican governor from Alaska.
Trumpeting from the Left
Comparing her to Dan Quayle, Kos celebrates the end of an election about “experience,” “Obama is not ready to lead” attack lines. Those are dead… Palin is also a an ideologue, on choice, on the environment, on energy — all the way down the line. This an ideological pick…McCain has abandoned any notion of playing for the center. He’s looking to shore up his right flank and hoping that the Evangelical Right can somehow drag McCain over the line.”
Joshua Marshall at Talking Points Memo echoes Kos line about experience adding that Palin enters the race with baggage that could weigh McCain’s campaign down. “It’s a daring pick but I think a very weak pick. I’m perfectly happy with it. Palin is in the midst of a reasonably serious scandal in her home state. Her brother-in-law is a state trooper who is in the midst of an ugly custody battle with her sister. And she’s accused of getting the state police to fire him.”
Clinton campaign adviser Howard Wolfson notes the stinging question: “… you are going to have a lot of women voters wondering why Senator Obama didn’t tap Senator Clinton as his running mate. Trumpeting from the Middle
Jonathan Martin gives the
upsides and downsides of a Palin pick. Upside: “Palin is a strong conservative, opposing abortion rights and enjoying a life membership in the NRA.” Downside: “She has no foreign policy experience whatsoever. She’s also entirely untested on the national political stage.”
Klause Marre at The Hill believes that Palin is a “high-risk, high-reward” candidate. It works to her benefit that she is outside the Beltway (way outside the Beltway) but she disagrees with McCain on ANWAR and supports drilling in that region.
Trumpeting from the Right
Fred Barnes gives a celebratory narrative of the relatively unknown governor. According to Barnes, Palin was the star born in the 2006 dark night of conservative politics: “The triumph came in Alaska where Sarah Palin, a politician of eye-popping integrity, was elected governor. She is now the most popular governor in America, with an approval rating in the 90s, and probably the most popular public official in any state. Her rise is a great (and rare) story of how adherence to principle–especially to transparency and accountability in government–can produce political success.”
Katherine Jean Lopez at National Review poignantly notes that any charge of inexperience leveled against vice-presidential pick Palin can be reflected back to Democrat presidential nominee Barack Obama. The media is in a quandary. Lopez seems happy with the tap saying, “That’s what authentic authenticity looks like.”
Michelle Malkin is “impressed. Very impressed.” She is tracking responses from the right.
Blowing My Own Horn
I agree with the buzz that McCain’s pick re-affirms his reputation as a maverick.
I am concerned that Palin does not bring many (if any) key battleground states such as Colorado or Michigan firmly into the McCain camp which would have happened in the event of a Romney or Pawlenty nod. However, I do not resonate with celebration on the Left about the death of the “experience” attack line.
Defined by experience, clearly there is a mentor/mentee relationship occurring on both tickets. However, the Republicans are not running their mentee as the presidential candidate. The vice-presidency has traditionally been understood as a preparatory role for the presidency. Therefore, it seems appropriate that John McCain would choose to groom a young, conservative star for the presidency by tapping her to be his VP nominee.
One final thought which I have not seen in the blogosphere as of yet. I am energized. I am a young, evangelical, conservative voter and I did not expect to be so energized by McCain’s vice-presidential choice. However, Palin is a woman who has a right philosophy of life and family issues. She glows with the kind of youthful authenticity that gave the pre-Rezko Obama his appeal. She fights oil companies where it makes sense to do so but does not bow before the altar of those who forget that nature is ours to steward, not worship.
I am energized. My conservative friends who are politically savvy are energized. People unfamiliar with her who find out about her story and her political philosophy become energized. Wake up Republicans, wake up conservative evangelicals, it is a new day.


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  • http://TheEverwiseBoonton.blogspot.com Boonton

    Defined by experience, clearly there is a mentor/mentee relationship occurring on both tickets. However, the Republicans are not running their mentee as the presidential candidate. The vice-presidency has traditionally been understood as a preparatory role for the presidency.
    Well in some cases but primarily it is about someone who can be President should anything bad happen. Al Gore, Bush I, Mondale, Ford, and Johnson were all well qualified to be President and didn’t need ‘mentoring’. Given McCain’s age this is a very serious and fair issue.
    Also this essentially says everything McCain has been saying is important has zero importance. She has zero foreign policy experience and elss experience than Obama. She was obviously picked because she was a woman and could hopefully grab some Hillary supporters (this will also end the meme on the right that Obama is an affirmative action candidate)….
    I think a better pick, if McCain was going to use this type of strategy, would have been Condi Rice. True she is associated with Bush but as an individual I think the public generally respects her. She has the foreign policy experience McCain has been saying is all important yet her youth and lack of a decades long DC resume serves the ‘change’ mantra as best as possible when McCain is on the top of the ticket.

  • http://TheEverwiseBoonton.blogspot.com Boonton

    Also there’s naming two daughters after witches on TV (from Buffy and Charmed)….Boomer and Starbuck from Battlestar Galactica would have signaled superior and excellent taste in TV watching.

  • http://homewardbound-cb.blogspot.com/ ChrisB

    What?! Buffy was (surprisingly) good tv! While I have a soft spot for Battlestar Galactica, there is no comparison.
    Oh, and I think Palin’s great, too. Any executive experience (even in a “small” state) counts in her favor. Obama has never run anything bigger than a committee.

  • The One

    So a conversative’s hope is that MCcain wins, then dies in office??? Sigh. As a Christian I can’t wish ill on anyone so still not voting for either candiate.

  • http://markbyron.typepad.com/main/ Mark Byron

    The folks in my faculty office seemed impressed by her, if that’s any early indication, and it’s not a conservative hotbed by far. Cindy McCain was getting Wicked Witch of the West treatment by that crowd, but they liked Palin.
    As a expatriate Michigander, I can say that this will help McCain in Michigan. A gal who hunts and snowmobiles will get a lot of the shop-rat vote, for there are a lot of blue-collar hunters in Michigan. Palin Democrats, anyone?

  • http://jackrabbitcafe.blogspot.com JohnnyRussia

    A typically cynical move , brought to you by the party of Karl Rove.
    Biden will eat her alive in the VP debate, and–once on the campaign trail–she will be exposed as the small-town mayor and rookie governor that she is.

  • http://TheEverwiseBoonton.blogspot.com Boonton

    Indeed, if we are only counting Executive experience then McCain has zero. If we are counting all experience in gov’t then Obama beats Palin.
    The mistake here trying to analyze the strategy as though Obama was making an issue of experience against McCain. It was the other way around, McCain was trying to make experience an issue against Obama. Now he has given up the ability to mount that argument.
    The vp spot is for mentoring isn’t going to fly. Presidents are and should be choosen by election, not groomed in office. VPs has often not succeeded their Presidents…Bush I got only one term. Gore didn’t get any. Mondale didn’t make it and neither did Ford. Likewise Johnson only made one term and Nixon (as Eisenhower’s VP) lost.
    The spot is for picking someone who can be President from day one and with this choice McCain is saying to us everything he has been saying about foreign policy expertise and experience is out the window. But he can try to do the “don’t worry, I promise I don’t die, resign or get impeached until I bring her up to speed” as a campaign theme.

  • http://TheEverwiseBoonton.blogspot.com Boonton

    As a expatriate Michigander, I can say that this will help McCain in Michigan. A gal who hunts and snowmobiles will get a lot of the shop-rat vote, for there are a lot of blue-collar hunters in Michigan. Palin Democrats, anyone?
    So the people in your office are casting their vote based on shared hobbies? Tell me again how Obama is the fluffy celebrity candidate?
    I only have a sample size of one which was a moderatly Republican leaning woman in my office. She was quite put off by the choice. When I suggested Rice would have been better she slapped her head and said that would have been an amazing ticket. I would have asked more people but I work with a lot of international people from India and other countries who, not being US citizens, don’t follow politics in quite the same way as well as the fact most people cut out early or didn’t come in at all for the holiday weekend.

  • http://homewardbound-cb.blogspot.com/ ChrisB

    “McCain is saying to us everything he has been saying about foreign policy expertise and experience is out the window”
    Or they may proceed to show us they’ve got a lady who can hold her own (at least against Biden).

  • http://www.evangelicaloutpost.com Dustin Steeve

    The One,
    I wish no ill on John McCain. I was highlighting the dual role of the VP. 1) A follow-up president should anything happen to the president. 2) Training to become the President. In fact, the opposite of what you say is true. I expect John McCain to live throughout his presidency and work with Palin to build an excellent resume for her own run for the presidency in the future.
    Boonton,
    From what I understand, Rice was not interested in running for office.
    I disagree that experience is now of zero importance. I believe that people will naturally give weight and consideration to experience.
    First, she has executive experience both as a governor and as the head of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission. Admittedly, this is a little bit less experience than Barack Obama who has experience as a community organizer and as a state legislator. I do not count much of his congressional work as experience because he has spent much of it planning and running his Presidential campaign.
    Second, if you grant the premise that a historically important role of the Vice-Presidential seat is to give an individual the experience needed to become the president, then the McCain-Palin ticket more naturally fits this model than the Obama-Biden ticket.
    On this we agree: Battlestar Galactica is indeed superior television. I have only seen scattered episodes from throughout the first three seasons, but I look forward to the fourth (and final?) coming out on DVD. The only show I have enjoyed more than Battlestar is The West Wing.

  • Elwood

    Dustin,
    Speaking of West Wing – have you noticed how the Obama/McCain race mirrors certain elements of the Matt Santos/(Alan Alda) race?

  • The One

    Steeve, I wasn’t writing to you, just pointing out something in general. McCain or Obama are both the same, just a different form of dictatorship.

  • ucfengr

    On this we agree: Battlestar Galactica is indeed superior television. I have only seen scattered episodes from throughout the first three seasons, but I look forward to the fourth (and final?) coming out on DVD.
    The forth season was a big letdown from the third (which wasn’t as good as the first two). Inertia was the only thing that kept me watching. The finale was also a big disappointment. It left a lot of loose hands and ending was very unsatisfying.

  • Elwood

    I agree that the lack of experience makes me nervous. In so far as comparing her to Obama, though, she’d only be in deficit to him in the first year or two. By then, by virtue of being the VP for 1 year, she would then trump Obama’s experience.
    It’s exciting, and I like the pick. But, I wouldn’t have taken that risk if I was McCain. Maybe Kay Bailey Hutchinson would have been less risky? (but, less exciting.)
    Is this a symptom of our culture that both Obama AND Palin can be so close to such important jobs, that we place to much value on what’s new, shiny, next big thing, due to our attention deficits?
    What happened to the value we place on age, experience, wisdom earned from years?
    On the other hand, King David was pretty young and inexperienced when God annointed him.

  • http://thebronxblogger.blogspot.com Matthew Goggins

    Governor Palin is a wonderful choice for Vice President. I am very excited about the ticket now.
    Senator Obama just got punked in a massive way. If he doesn’t radically change course, he will lose in an electoral college landslide.
    And I doubt that he will find himself able to shift, since despite all his gumflapping about change, he is essentially only a defender of the Democratic status quo. I hope I am wrong, since a competitive race will be better for the country, but I bet that I am not.
    By the way, at the time of the Jeremiah Wright scandal, I was undecided about Obama versus McCain. I was very favorably disposed towards Senator Obama for defanging the Hilda-beast in the primaries. I am disappointed that I don’t like him as a politician and a candidate in the general election.

  • http://www.blogs4god.com/2008/08/29/what-some-christian-bloggers-are-saying-about-sarah-palin/ blogs4God

    What some Christian bloggers are (already) saying about Sarah Palin

    McCain’s announcement of Sarah Palin as his running mate is barely out, and already the Christian blogosphere is all abuzz. Here is what some of them are saying …

  • http://www.evangelicaloutpost.com Dustin Steeve

    Elwood,
    Someone told me that writers of the West Wing actually spoke to early planners of Obama’s campaign. I do not know if this is true, but it would be interesting if it were. The writers of the show certainly seem insightful. However, on the whole, I think the substance of each campaign differs from what the writers predicted. Oh, and Leo died, which is a tragedy that I do not wish on Biden.
    Ucfengr,
    No! This news slightly decreases the joy brought to me this day. I will watch anyways out of curiosity.

  • http://www.kiva.net clay

    Although she doesn’t support gay marriage she does support same sex unions and equal protection of civil rights for gays and supported benefits for partners.

  • ucfengr

    On the other hand, King David was pretty young and inexperienced when God annointed him.
    True, but it was still many years between the anointing and his coronation. In between he was a very successful general, bringing great victories to Israel and demonstrating his leadership abilities.

  • Glenn Schmidt

    The foreign policy of Sarah Palin is a non-factor because if, god forbid something did happen to McCain, she’s not just going to be on her own, she will make a great choice for a v.p. to replace her with a strong candidate on foreign policy. PROBLEM SOLVED.
    Furthermore, the argument of inexperince is so rediculous because she in fact has many more accomplishments than barakoli (people hate broccoli) and since when is experience such an issue with the dems, it seems it only became important TODAY. Also, being a governor is a position in which many decisions must be made day in and day out, as a senator, you sit in boring meetings wasting time listning to other people speak, no good experience gained there. So if they don’t like someone without experience they better start figuring out how to get obambi off of their own ticket, and let us take care of our own. This is all they can come up with because they lose if debated on all the issues-Energy independance-Economy-WINNING the war, not just ending it-health care. They lose on all of them, that’s why obama refuses to debate. She is the most awsome pick McCain could of ever made and this just goes to show how smart and savvy he is. Who would want Joe Bile running the country anyway, like Obama is about to keel over, right. Clinton had the chance to take out osama bin laden many times, but he was busy in the ovary office doing all the important things that dems like to do, a-hem Edwards.
    Notice her political career started in 1992.
    Palin was elected governor in 2006 after defeating incumbent governor Frank Murkowski in the Republican primary and former Democratic governor Tony Knowles in the general election. She was the youngest person, and the first woman, to be elected governor of Alaska. Before becoming governor, Palin served two terms on the Wasilla, Alaska, City Council from 1992 to 1996, was elected and re-elected mayor of Wasilla for two three-year terms in 1996 and 1999. She also ran unsuccessfully for lieutenant governor in 2002. Palin holds a bachelor of arts degree in journalism from the University of Idaho.
    McCain Palin all the way!!! Our Future depends on it.

  • http://c-orthodoxy.blogspot.com/ Ken Brown

    Policy aside, it’s certainly shaping up to be an interesting election.
    But on the much more important issue of Battlestar Galactica: I thought season four (the half we’ve seen anyway) was better than season three, and the finale was great. They still haven’t matched the brilliant first season, but even on a bad day, it’s still the among the best on television.

  • Chris

    Her views on abortion and guns are unsurprising.
    However – her views that 1) human activity has nothing to do with global warming, and 2) that intelligent design should be taught in science class, will not help in the popular election.
    These views will marginalize the party and embarrass McCain. (The republican platform at this convention specifically says that carbon released into the atmosphere by human activity is impacting climate).
    She will have to flip-flop/backtrack/double-speak on these issues, which wont be pretty.

  • http://saidatsouthern.com/poll-are-prolife-evangelical-excited-about-sarah-palin/ Said at Southern

    Poll: Are ProLife Evangelicals Excited About Sarah Palin?

    Our pastoral staff went to lunch today at a local pizza place. We were just in time to watch the announcement of Sarah Palin as John McCain’s choice for Vice-President.
    It was amazing to see the place react to the news. See more about Sarah Pal…

  • Mike Toreno

    Glenn Schmidt, you’re making a joke, right?
    She may not make it through the weekend. Wapo has an interview with Monegan.

  • Phil

    Umm… Chris, Governor Palin would have to flip-flop on evolution if the majority of Americans actually believe in it. And further, if the majority of scientists actually believed in man caused global warming then she may have to flip-flop on that as well.
    And even further, that is assuming that she would even flip flop on these issues and puts politics before principle.
    I have an instinct that probably wont be the case. Sorry pal, but good game anyways. :)

  • Phil

    Hey Mike, you did know that the trooper she terminated tasered his 10 year old child, right? Umm… Do you agree with tasering children is acceptable behavior for an officer of the law?
    Sorry Mike, I have to disagree with that position.

  • Phil

    Hey Mike, you did know that the trooper she terminated tasered his 10 year old child, right? Umm… Do you agree with tasering children is acceptable behavior for an officer of the law?
    Sorry Mike, I have to disagree with that position.

  • Phil

    Sorry for the double post! :( Got a server error on the first one.

  • B

    I may a little old fashion but on this Sarah Palin nomination I cannot help feel for the baby with down syndrom. OK so she knew the baby had it before it was born and she had it anyway…this was good. When she got pregnant over the age of forty she knew she was taking a risk, I mean she already had four children, why another at her age. Bottom line, a sick baby needs it’s mother. It was bad judgement for her to get pregnant at her age and a selfish decision to go back to work right after she had it. Giving birth is not the “end” of pro-life…it is the beginning.

  • http://prozacstan.blogspot.com/ Stan McCullars

    Life is beautiful, don’t you think?!
    Obamacide must be stopped.

  • voxoverguy

    Inexperience aside (and that’s a huge feat), what does this choice say about McCain’s judgment? A 72 year old with four bouts with cancer chooses an unknown governor and former small town mayor to be “ready on day one” if necessary to succeed him, in a post-9/11 world. PALIN will sit across from Putin and Medvedev? PALIN will handle a nuclear armed Pakistan? This isn’t bold and risky; it’s reckless. I am disgusted by his arrogance and clear disdain for the office. Putting Country First? My ass. He’s putting an election first. Palin is the crappy gift you get that you pretend to love.

  • http://charisshalom.fjministries.com Bryan Riley

    She seems like an amazing choice. McCain defies those who say he is a good ol’ boy networker and demonstrates his political savvy with this choice. The announcement actually perked up my wife and she never cares a whit for political races because the candidates rarely if ever resonate with her. Now we are both watching with great interest. I think my wife’s reaction will be the reaction of a great many Americans across the nation who hail from smaller towns and middle America.

  • Robski

    A desperate choice, not very well thought out. Embarassing for both of them, really. This team is dead in the water.

  • Gina

    BREAK THE GLASS CEILING !!!
    WOW … What a great pick!!! America should elect
    McCain & Palin for the Whitehouse in November,
    for a return to wholesome American values.
    An experienced Governor for V.P. vs. a
    community organizer for President … I pick Palin.
    No Wright, no Farrakahn, no Ayers, no Rezko,
    no mean Michelle, NOBAMA

  • Mike Toreno

    Phil, you demonstrate with your question that you have no honest argument to make. Wooten foolishly gave in to the boy’s insistence that he be tasered to prove to his cousin that he wasn’t a mama’s boy. (That’s the boy’s version to the extent it is reported in the Anchorage Daily News). The mother naturally went ballistic. Obviously you don’t do everything a 10-year-old asks you to do, it was a really stupid thing to do and a misuse of police resources. But the true story proves that the picture of an abusive officer you’re trying to depict is a lie. Clearly, the truth as it actually is does not justify Palin in not only pressuring Monegan to fire Wooten, but firing Monegan when he refused.
    If you have to lie to prove your point, you don’t prove your point, you only prove you’re a liar.

  • Phil

    Heh – so Mike doesn’t agree that tasering a ten-year old child is enough to get someone fired. Hmmm… If that was my ten year old kid, or in fact I saw anyone taser a 10 year old, I would be kicking someone’s butt first and asking questions later. But, maybe I am one of the those fringe radicals that think sending a thousand volts into a ten year old is not the smartest thing to do.
    This is a non-issue and you really need to start grasping at some other straws.

  • Phil

    B writes that it was bad judgment for Gov Palin to have a baby after 40. Okay, so I thought reproductive “rights” is a liberal talking point. Who sir, are you, to state that you can determine the optimum age/job classification for a woman to decide to have a baby? I assume that if she would have had an abortion you would have thought that it was the proper course of action.
    How did our culture get so skewed, where death is good and life is bad? Simply pathetic.

  • http://TheEverwiseBoonton.blogspot.com Boonton

    Actually Phil it sounded to me like B was writing from a right wing perspective….he felt she should be devoting her time to taking care of a new baby that has special needs.
    From my perspective she is well within her rights to have a baby after 40. I think, though, a lot of people have a right to feel a bit uncomfortable about it just as people tend to feel uncomfortable with a couple getting married right at 18. Things can work out fine and individuals must make their own free choices but it isn’t wrong to point out it’s a good idea to be a bit careful about this.
    Out of curiousity what do you think about people pushing birth even higher up the age scale? I believe we’ve had births to women in the 50 bracket and a few years ago I swear I heard a report about a 62 yr old Italian woman who gave birth after intensive treatment. I don’t think having second thoughts about that is ‘pro death’ or anti-baby. I would venture to say many people who feel uneasy about it are actually quite pro-baby since the person who has to live with almost all of the consquences (defects, illnesses, and the greater chance of losing a parent early) are in fact the baby.
    That being said, 40 is IMO just a bit above average and not really extreme. There is a higher risk of Down’s Syndrome but it is by no means a certainity.

  • Phil

    Boon (and to B), I apologize if I misread what was written. I still stand by my original remarks. My personal viewpoint is that it is best for a child to have a parent home at all times. My wife is a stay at home mom, so she definitely practices what she preaches.
    As for children born to parents that are outside the normal distribution curve for age, all I can say is that those parents are blessed and that the children have a challenge. But, it is better to have a challenging life than to have no life at all.

  • Mike Toreno

    Phil, once again you prove you’re a liar with no argument to make. I laid out the details of what happened, and you ignored them. If you have an honest argument to make, make it. Out of the boy’s own mouth we have the information that the taser event happened because the boy wanted it. The boy’s actions were similar to those idiot news people who have the taser demonstrated on them. The boy wanted to prove how tough he was. Now, as I said, Wooten shouldn’t have gone along, you don’t do everything a 10-year-old asks you to do. But it is not the sort of incident that justifies the governor interfering with police personnel practices to the extent that she did.
    But you go ahead, talk about “tasering a 10-year-old” while deliberately seeking to conceal the fact that the 10-year-old wanted and asked to be tasered.
    If you want to address the incident as it happened, address it as it happened. Address all the relevant facts. Explain why the fact that the boy asked to be tasered doesn’t make any difference. The way you’re posing the argument now, you don’t tell us anything except that you’re a liar.

  • Phil

    Mike, you prove your position more laughable with every post. I would recommend you seriously rethink this argument. You are stating that since the 10 year old ‘asked to be tasered’ then it was an acceptable thing for a police officer to do? Where I am from, we call that incredibly foolish adult supervision. I guess those of us who do have children understand that children simply do not have the cognition to understand all the ramifications of a violent act.
    You sir, seem to have this same cognitive failing as well. I am not going to taser someone who ‘asks for it.’ If a child asks to be shot in the knee would that be acceptable as well? C’mon, please, at least for the love of Darwin, buy a clue.

  • Phil

    And Mike, you stated that I am lying. What facts am I lying about? Did the state trooper taser his 10 (or it might have been 11) year old step son? That was the only fact that I stated, the rest is my opinion. However, this fact alone justifies his immediate dismissal in my opinion. You can disagree with that based on the opinion that his son asked to be tasered. I disagree with that opinion, but I do not think that it is a lie, simply opinion.
    So justifying an act using ad-hominem attacks and name calling is not how logical arguments are made. Again, we disagree with the premise of taserng a child, whether he asked to have it done or not. Your conclusion, is that Palin is done for (over the weekend you stated earlier). My conclusion is that this is a dead issue and you are grasping at straws.

  • Glenn

    The most awesome choice for vp. She is a reformer like McCain and he selected her because he sees her views as the best direction for the future of the rep party. She definitely will not allow wasteful spending. I was hoping for Romney, but once again McCain shows that he knows better than everyone else does. As far as being a new mother, her husband has assumed the role of mr. mom, and she will be provided much help when in the white house. Couldn’t be a better scenario for her. It’s very obvious this was a great choice by how completely upset the dems are.
    McCain Palin definitely Country First.

  • Lauren

    The foreign policy of Sarah Palin is a non-factor because if, god forbid something did happen to McCain, she’s not just going to be on her own, she will make a great choice for a v.p. to replace her with a strong candidate on foreign policy. PROBLEM SOLVED.
    Furthermore, the argument of inexperince is so rediculous because she in fact has many more accomplishments than barakoli (people hate broccoli) and since when is experience such an issue with the dems, it seems it only became important TODAY. Also, being a governor is a position in which many decisions must be made day in and day out, as a senator, you sit in boring meetings wasting time listning to other people speak, no good experience gained there. So if they don’t like someone without experience they better start figuring out how to get obambi off of their own ticket, and let us take care of our own. This is all they can come up with because they lose if debated on all the issues-Energy independance-Economy-WINNING the war, not just ending it-health care. They lose on all of them, that’s why obama refuses to debate. She is the most awsome pick McCain could of ever made and this just goes to show how smart and savvy he is. Who would want Joe Bile running the country anyway, like Obama is about to keel over, right. Clinton had the chance to take out osama bin laden many times, but he was busy in the ovary office doing all the important things that dems like to do, a-hem Edwards.

  • Glenn

    One more thing is that Sarah has great speaking ability. She gave her speech without tele-propmter, and I didn’t hear one uhhh. Congratulations Sarah. Excellent choice John!

  • http://JesusNoRepublican.Org/ Rev Ray Dubuque

    Dustin,
    If nothing else, you can take comfort from the fact that a number of people have read this blog of yours and taken the time to comment on it.
    I’ve never read it before, but you really ought to do more listening, as commenters like Booton have a lot to teach you, as when he correct your foolish claim that “The vice-presidency has traditionally been understood as a preparatory role for the presidency.” both “traditionally” and constitutionally, the vice president’s crucial role is as backup to the president, should he/she be removed or even incapacitated for the briefest of periods.
    McCain’s choice of Pailin demonstrates the kind of poor judgment that “evangelicals” foolishly supported in George W. Bush. It also demonstrates how cynical his team is in questioning Obama’s readiness to be president, while proclaiming the readiness of a small town mayor and 1 1/2 year experience of a small population state (which is totally different from most of the other states).
    Before “evangelicals” like you repeat the same mistakes you made by supporting “Liar in chief” Bush, may I suggest that you spend some time exploring LiberalsLikeChrist.Org site! Among other things I warned the nation about Bush’s dishonesty and incompetence long before even the 2000 election.

  • D. Halama

    All of you people on these blogs crack me up, do you really believe anything you say here is going to change the outcome of the election? Look at all the time you guys are wasting here and on all the blogs on the net. Your time could be put to much better use as a volunteer to a good cause.
    Peace

  • Mrs darling

    Go Sara! Queen Ester was brought to the throne in history “for a time such as this” the Bible says. I think we can say the same about Sara Palin! Republicans and conservatives you must come out in numbers like never before in this election. We must win this! “With God before us who can be against us?”

  • Mrs darling

    Go Sara! Queen Ester was brought to the throne in history “for a time such as this” the Bible says. I think we can say the same about Sara Palin! Republicans and conservatives you must come out in numbers like never before in this election. We must win this! “With God before us who can be against us?”

  • Mrs darling

    Go Sara! Queen Ester was brought to the throne in history “for a time such as this” the Bible says. I think we can say the same about Sara Palin! Republicans and conservatives you must come out in numbers like never before in this election. We must win this! “With God before us who can be against us?”

  • Eric

    I’m pretty sad that McCain didn’t pick Romney as his second.
    I’m sure after a few days i’ll get over it. Having read around the blogosphere and watched some news channels, ive become rather impressed with Palin. Here’s a woman who is younger than Obama, has less experience than Obama, and yet has more accomplishments than Obama. And she’s not even running against Obama for the #1 spot.
    Pretty amazing actually. But, I won’t be voting for Palin i’ll be voting for McCain for President. And i’m loathe to vote for someone in the hopes that they will become President over someone elses death.
    So, i’m not decided on this yet. But i’m one of the last few holdouts. Of the Republicans and Independents that I know (Which isn’t a whole heck of a lot) they’ve all gone over to McCain with this pick, even going so far as to start donating money to his campaign (Don’t think I can ever go that far!).
    Oh how I wish we would have just chosen Palin as our Presidential nominee, then this would be easy for me.
    Why do we have to suffer with McCain?

  • http://godsnowhere.wordpress.com Erik U.

    It’s discouraging to see so many people who call themselves Christians spewing so much venom and vitriol over political scenarios. Aren’t there more important places for us to invest our emotions? Perhaps we could respectfully disagree with fellow-Christians without making personal attacks and judgments. I find both this article and the comments to be disheartening. May God bless both candidate teams and give them the strength to do the great things they’re promising to do as President / Veep.

  • meryl smith

    I am very worried about some rumors I’ve been reading. They say Sarah Palin is not the mother of the 4 month old child, rather her daughter is. I sure hope this isn’t true as a lie this big won’t bode well for McCain. They are posting pictures of Palin and frankly she doesn’t look pregnant to me. As a mother of 4 it’s hard to believe she wouldn’t be showing at 7 months. Also her daughter was pulled out of school for 5 months..
    This won’t be good if true.

  • pentamom

    Look, hospitals don’t go along with pretending that one woman is the mother of another woman’s child. Even if she’s governor. That’s just absurd. She’s also breastfeeding the child. Large-boned, fit, healthy, athletic women frequently don’t show much until very late in the pregnancy, strange as that seems to those of us who “pop” early and large. Besides, you might want to check out this chart of Down Syndrome and maternal age, and ask yourself, “Which is more likely — that there was a coverup of a 16 year old having a Down Syndrome baby and just pretending it was a 40+ year old mother, or that this is just fever-swamp moonbat accusation?”
    http://www.ds-health.com/risk.htm
    As for naming her daughters after TV witches, I don’t know enough about TV witches, so I don’t know which daughters you’re referring to, but two out of three of her daughters were born before either Buffy or Charmed ever existed, so I doubt that was the motivation. Don’t know about the third.

  • Meryl Smith

    That’s what I thought too Pentamom. But here’s why I am worried:
    1. There is no record of any Palin birth at the named hospital on the date that this baby was born.
    2. There are pictures of Sarah Palin pregnant at 7 months with previous child and she is HUGE. But the pictures/videos of her with this baby she really doesn’t appear to be pregnant until AFTER she makes the announcement at 7 months pregnant. She delivered a 6 pound baby at 8 months supposedly.
    3. Her 16 year old daughter was taken out of school for same period of time …5 months due to mono. There are pictures of this daughter who actually looks to be more pregnant than her mother.
    4. Sarah Palin’s story about going to Texas for a speech at 8 months pregnant seems odd to me. Added to the oddness is her story that her water broke 30 minutes prior to giving her speech, yet she got on a flight 8 hour flight back to Alaska, had a stop and still didn’t get off the flight. She didn’t arrive home until more than14 hours after her water broke. This too seems odd as most women who have had several births, labor can run very fast…and the accepted procedure when your water breaks is to head immediately to the hospital. This goes against ALL protocol for a woman of her age, carrying a down syndrome baby, having her water break and increased chance of quick labor due to it being her FIFTH child. Weird decision making if it is her baby.
    5. She says she is breast feeding, but that really doesn’t mean anything does it? That’s done in private.
    6. As for Downs syndrome. It is more prevalent in older moms, however it is possible in teens. In fact it is more prevalent with teen moms than moms in their 20s. I know 2 teen moms with down syndrome babies.
    There is a lot of fishy stuff going on with this story and many blogs and now media outlets are picking up the story.

  • http://www.matrix-evolutions.com Ruth Calabria

    A Warning for Barack Obama. You are going to have to watch your emotional sense of Sarah Palin. People like her, conservatives, are just following rules in their consideration for others. They are rules as in a competition or sporting event, rules that must be obeyed and that derive from fear of judgment from authority, not from any real empathy for the pain and suffering of others. For all conservatives have had their natural emotions wiped from their psyches and replaced by fear of punishment for disobeying rules, fear and guilt inculcated as “conscience” by fear of punishment at a young age. Rather than caring about people as I know you do, Barack, out of genuine empathy, they care about how they are seen and judged in the way that they treat people. Much will be made about McCain and Palin’s attitudes toward people during Hurricane Gustav. There are limits as to how much you can thwart the perception of the electorate towards her and McCain’s sympathy for victims of the storm, for visible statements of concern and supporting deeds speak for themselves are hard to contradict in people’s minds whatever their motive. Reality is the unrehearsed response by conservatives to what happened during Hurricane Katrina. Counterbalance their kind act political theatre during this storm when all eyes are upon them as best you can within the limits of political reality. But you must not, yourself, not even for a moment, become emotionally connected toward Palin as a fellow caring individual in any way, for that misplaced identification of her with yourself would be emotionally fatal to the proper attitude you must have towards her no more than a player on the Bush, Rove, Limbaugh conservative gang that seeks four more years of power, four more years that will destroy us all. She is no more than the sheep’s clothing of the wolf, never more in your mind than an enemy of the people that must be defeated in her efforts to get McCain into the White House.
    Ruth Calabria matrix-evolutions.

  • http://www.rightnation.us/forums/blog/mr__naron/index.php? Mr. Naron

    Meryl,
    Those rumors were started with no evidence whatsoever. It’s typical 9/11 Truther nonsense.
    And it has been proven wrong without a shadow of a doubt because Bristol is five months pregnant NOW.
    Let the transition to screams of hypocrisy begin and forget the fact that the lefty blogs spewed this disgusting garbage in the first place. Kos, Andrew Sullivan and more than a few conservatives who took this bile seriously need to go away for awhile. I can’t state strongly enough how reckless and small minded it is to have even entertained it.

  • http://TheEverwiseBoonton.blogspot.com Boonton

    I have seen a woman give birth in the morning and be home in the evening but I doubt she would give a speech. On the other hand, I have no idea what the motives would be. The news just announced her 17 yr old daughter is pregnant. Why go through the trouble of replacing a pregnant daughter story with a potential indictment for trying to ‘swap mothers’….as well as the logistical challenges of keeping your preg. daughter out of sight and making yourself look at least plausibly pregnant when you’re not.
    Alaska isn’t a media capital but people who work with you day to day are likely to notice such oddities and generate gossip. The payoff of such a convoluted coverup seems pretty elusive and the penalties for getting found out are high.
    Not saying it couldn’t be so and I hope the blogers dig into it but this sounds a bit like the nutso ramblings of the crowd whose trying to argue Obama isn’t a US citizen.

  • ucfengr

    A Warning for Barack Obama. You are going to have to watch your emotional sense of Sarah Palin. People like her, conservatives, are just following rules in their consideration for others. They are rules as in a competition or sporting event, rules that must be obeyed and that derive from fear of judgment from authority, not from any real empathy for the pain and suffering of others….
    Wow, broad sweeping generalizations about the beliefs and motives of a enormous group of people, 99.999999% of whom you have never met. Replace the word “conservative” with “gay” or “Muslim” and post that at Kos or DU or HuffPo and see what response you get. Then compare that with the response you get here. It may be enlightening to you.

  • http://TheEverwiseBoonton.blogspot.com Boonton

    It looks like the ‘fake pregnancy’ meme has died. Photos have been published showing she indeed looked preg. And it looks like her kids were named after locations in Alaska and airplane models rather than TV witches. (Has anyone noticed she does look a bit like Battlestar Galactica’s President Rosalin?)
    More importantly it appears she’s had no vetting by McCain. Brewing in the background now is a troopergate scandal where it seems she might have used her power to try to get a state police trooper fired because he was going thru a nasty custody fight with her sister. Well it’s not going to get boring this year….

  • Patricia

    Sarah Palin,This woman has not just put us back 50 years – she has put us back to the stone age – I mean really – here is her 17 year old practically bare foot, pregnant and in the kitchen. As if deciding to keep the baby and marry the father really white washes the fact that her daughter is doing what every teenager of a certain age is doing – having sex, and not using proper birth control. So what she didnt have an abortion – the bigger issue is the endorsement, publicly of teen pregancy and teen parents. UGH.

  • http://TheEverwiseBoonton.blogspot.com Boonton

    Well yea but it’s not like she went to her daughter and said “start having sex but don’t use proper birth control so you can help me endorse teen pregnancy and parenthood”.

  • smmtheory

    Imagine that… Boonton disagreeing with the Kos kids that have wandered over to spread innuendo and monger rumors.

  • ucfengr

    Sarah Palin,This woman has not just put us back 50 years – she has put us back to the stone age – I mean really – here is her 17 year old practically bare foot, pregnant and in the kitchen.
    So, have you actually been to the Palin house and seen Bristol barefoot (in Alaska, yet), pregnant, and, oh, maybe chained to the stove or are you just making an assumption, because, like, everybody knows Republicans, and especially, like Christians, hate women.

  • Mary

    I really do not quite understand just what Palins pro family values are.
    As a mother I find it very problematic to cast your own daughter into the national spotlight for scrutiny over your own political aspirations.
    She has slashed funding in her home state for teen moms and special needs children.
    There are too many mixed messages here.

  • gail

    I have some difficulty trying to understand the extremist right. They voted for George Bush because he said he was a “believer” and that was all that mattered to the right wing. After becoming president, he started a war with the wrong country (which has nearly bankrupted our own country), and he has worked to destroy our constitution. Now the extreme right want to vote for Sarah Palin because she is a “believer.” Never mind all the lies about the “bridge to nowhere” and all the lies about her being a reformer. (Please do some research on her; it’s not that difficult!)
    If you have to vote AGAINST an intelligent black man (and I know that you do) then vote for Ron Paul or Bob Barr. They, at least, have some understanding of our constitution.
    George Bush was a dangerous choice and Sarah Palin is even more so.

  • ceecee

    Any “Christian” who says they will vote for McCain Palin because Palin is a “believer” is the same kind of “Christian” she is: a liar.
    Greg Schmidt is a plant.

  • ceecee

    Any “Christian” who says they will vote for McCain Palin because Palin is a “believer” is the same kind of “Christian” she is: a liar for whom it is okay to lie because your career and perceived reputation is more important than God’s.
    His judgement is upon them. The hurricanes are proof. The economic meltdowns of our financial institutions are signs for an evil and perverse generation.
    Greg Schmidt is a plant.

  • ceecee

    Any “Christian” who says they will vote for McCain Palin because Palin is a “believer” is the same kind of “Christian” she is: a liar for whom it is okay to lie because your reputation and career are more important than God’s.
    Moral Majority leaders could well say His judgement is upon them. The convention hurricane is proof.
    As well that the economic meltdowns of our financial institutions are signs against an evil and perverse generation who also refuses to pay their bills.
    Pro 11:15 He that is surety for a stranger shall smart [for it]: and he that hateth suretiship is sure.
    Pro 17:18 A man void of understanding striketh hands, [and] becometh surety in the presence of his friend.
    Greg Schmidt is a plant.

  • ceecee

    Any “Christian” who says they will vote for McCain Palin because Palin is a “believer” is the same kind of “Christian” she is: a liar for whom it is okay to lie because your career and reputation are more important than God’s.
    His judgement is upon theirs. The hurricanes are proof.
    The economic meltdowns of our financial institutions are signs against an evil and perverse generation.
    Pro 11:15 He that is surety for a stranger shall smart [for it]: and he that hateth suretiship is sure.
    Pro 17:18 A man void of understanding striketh hands, [and] becometh surety in the presence of his friend.
    Greg Schmidt is a plant.

  • ceecee

    Any “Christian” who says they will vote for McCain Palin because Palin is a “believer” is the same kind of “Christian” she is: a liar for whom it is okay to lie because your career and reputation are more important than God’s.
    His judgement is upon them. The hurricanes are proof.
    The economic meltdowns of our financial institutions are signs of this evil and perverse government generation.
    Greg Schmidt is a plant.

  • ceecee

    Any “Christian” who says they will vote for McCain Palin because Palin is a “believer” is the same kind of “Christian” she is: a liar for whom it is okay to lie because your career and reputation are more important than God’s.
    His judgement is upon them. The hurricanes are proof.
    The economic meltdowns of our financial institutions are signs of this evil and perverse generation. His Word is sure:
    Pro 11:15 He that is surety for a stranger shall smart [for it]: and he that hateth suretiship is sure.
    Pro 17:18 A man void of understanding striketh hands, [and] becometh surety in the presence of his friend.
    Greg Schmidt is a plant.

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    Go Sarah. Finally, a real woman is headed for the Whitehouse. She is self-made, bright, energetic, and has great core values.

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