Comments on: Tolerance

By: Rob Ryan

Rob Ryan — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 00:57:05 +0000

“It seems to me that rude and obnoxious comments are a better example of poor manners and an inadequate upbringing than calling you out for them.”
So now it is rude and obnoxious to point out that hypocrisy exists on both sides of the political spectrum? I must say, that is certainly a self-serving redefinition on your part. Guess it beats admitting you are wrong.

By: Boonton

Boonton — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 06:13:48 +0000

I posted most of my thoughts on this subject on the latter post but briefly:
1. I find it kind of strange that protestors are supposed to tolerate people crashing their protest. It’s one thing for the Catholic Church to refrain from catapulting flaming pitch at the Synagogue across the street but if a Rabbi grabs the microphone during Easter Service is it intolerant to get angry and tell him to go back to his own house?
2. This, of course, doesn’t mean if a Rabbi did crash a Catholic service the parishioners should attack him, yell at him, call him names, or yank off his Yarmulke. On the other hand, if such a thing did happen I wouldn’t be so quick to say this is proof that Catholics are intolerant. Only that they, like everyone else, can have problems controlling their anger.
3. Protests are not calm peaceful affairs like religious services. They have always been, to quote the Godfather, “a little bit dangerous”. What this woman did was essentially inciting a riot. I don’t think she did that intentionally. She did it because she was stupid but that is what she did and it is unfortunate that Christians seem to think that is something to be encouraged. Unfortunately, despite ucfengr’s idiocy, this isn’t good advice. Don’t believe if you get in the middle of a pro-life protest and suddenly rip off that pro-life t-shirt and start waving a abortion rights banner you are going to be showered with waves of tolerance because the right wing humans are somehow less fallen than left wing ones. You are quite likely to start some violence and if you’re not pummeled by protestors I’d have no problem with the cops leading you away in handcuffs.

By: ucfengr

ucfengr — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:20:42 +0000

If you insist on twisting my remarks to serve your rhetorical purposes,
Why is it that so few people can admit when they said something really stupid? I didn’t twist your words. You said what you said. Why not just be honest with yourself and admit that your “abortion doctor” comment was the intellectual equivalent of “so’s your mother” and move on.
Is this meant to suggest that I consider you my moral inferior? Because I don’t think you are particularly well-mannered?
Yawn. You don’t think I’m well mannered because I call you out when you make rude and obnoxious comments. It seems to me that rude and obnoxious comments are a better example of poor manners and an inadequate upbringing than calling you out for them.
I’ll have to throw you in the same box as smmtheory:
Am I supposed to be insulted here?
either dim or disingenous.
I get it, rather than admit you were wrong, you double down on your rude and obnoxious comments. I am not surprised, but I must confess, I was hoping to be.

By: Rob Ryan

Rob Ryan — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 17:59:10 +0000

“Nobody has to twist your remarks Rob, they are twisted before you hit the enter key.”
Example, please.

By: smmtheory

smmtheory — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 07:40:15 +0000

If you insist on twisting my remarks to serve your rhetorical purposes,

Nobody has to twist your remarks Rob, they are twisted before you hit the enter key.

By: Rob Ryan

Rob Ryan — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 05:55:04 +0000

Wait a minute; I’m not done.
You said: “Do you equate them with people who murdered abortion doctors too?”
Is this meant to imply that I compared YOU to a murderer?
And: “That way you avoid associating with your moral inferiors.”
Is this meant to suggest that I consider you my moral inferior? Because I don’t think you are particularly well-mannered? Who is the wounded child now?
If you insist on twisting my remarks to serve your rhetorical purposes, I’ll have to throw you in the same box as smmtheory: either dim or disingenous.
Now I’m done.

By: Rob Ryan

Rob Ryan — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 05:47:38 +0000

“Geez, you keep saying you haven’t lived a sheltered life, but your actions belie it.”
You seem to think of yourself as a reasonable person, but your words belie it. You are so convinced of your rectitude that you eschew self-examination. You really don’t see yourself, and my arm is tired of holding up the mirror. I’m moving on, ucfengr.

By: Rob Ryan

Rob Ryan — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 05:43:38 +0000

By: Rob Ryan

Rob Ryan — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 05:41:52 +0000

By: ucfengr

ucfengr — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 05:17:12 +0000

We generally manage to do this without being disagreeable. You should try it.
Do you equate them with people who murdered abortion doctors too? No offense, but you really are a silly person. You plop out that crack about abortion clinic murderers and expect a polite response. Then have the temerity to get indignant when you don’t? Geez, you keep saying you haven’t lived a sheltered life, but your actions belie it.